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loannubie



Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Rate Question Reply with quote

Hello,

I am really new with getting mortgage rates. I am interested in purchasing a house and a friend of mine recommend a mortgage broker.

Today I went to this broker to get a quote.
My wife and I have a score of 700+

We are looking for a $250,000 loan we were quoted 6.375 for a 30year fix plus closing cost. The other option we have is 6.50 with closing costs included.

The mortgage broker took our ss#'s and driver licensee info and last 2 paychecks + last 2 years of W2's.

Were we suppose to give that info? I am scared that I shouldn't of given him the info.

Thanks,

Chris


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jaredevenson



Joined: 17 Oct 2007
Posts: 27
Location: Spokane Valley, Wa

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: great. Reply with quote

Hello!

great questions.

sounds like a great rate, what you need to consider is if you have the money up front to pay for closing costs go ahead and do it yourself, if not than go ahead and have him include it into the rate, sounds like a great deal to me! i'd get it in writing on a Good Faith Estimate.

Also be aware that you will also have Mortgage Insurance with this quote that he gave you. and what all is he exactly considering your "closing costs"

some people can consider just the brokers processing and underwriters fee and origination fee for closing costs, where you are also going to have Title insurance fee's, Escrow Fee's, and fee's from the closing agent. so see what he means by covering "all closing costs" if that includes your Escrow reserve accounts or just his fee's.

and yes it sounds like the info you gave him is accurate those are the basics that you need for every "full doc" loan.

good luck with it!


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loannubie



Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaredevenson,

Thanks for the replay.
I forgot to add this loan is with me giving 20% down.
Should I shop around more?
I just do not feel confortable giving the loan companies all my personal information. With identity theft and all.

Thanks


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chow



Joined: 22 Jan 2005
Posts: 2350
Location: Cornfield County, Indiana

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with 20% down you wouldn't have any PMI!

okay, can I have this loan? Wink



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Haplo



Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 2422
Location: Springfield, IL

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good faith estimate won't mean squat until you have a purchase contract signed and are ready to lock in. So many people around here get the bait and switch from people. "Oh, well rates got worse over the last few days" even when they've gotten better....considerably.

It's a pretty good scenario, but you've gotta keep in mind the difference between now and when you lock, and ask for a detailed explanation if any of it changes.



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Marty 1stMet



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Posts: 38
Location: Williamsburg

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Tsk, Tsk Reply with quote

Chow, openly solicitating..... Rolling Eyes

And yes, that's a mispelled word up there too!


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loannubie



Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok....is it normal for a mortgage broker to ask for our ss#'s and driver licensee info and last 2 paychecks + last 2 years of W2's.

Were we suppose to give that info? I know he needed the ss# for the credit check. But what's with the W2's, the list 2 paychecks, and drivers license numbers?


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mortgageDr



Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you get a GFE(good faith estimate) from the broker.

I agree with the others that the bait and switch is happening alot.

I would also try to go to the bank for a rate.

Wells Fargo has very competitive pricing right now.

Email me for reference # if you like. My guy can close a deal quickly and

the price and rate they quote will not change at closing time.



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chow



Joined: 22 Jan 2005
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Location: Cornfield County, Indiana

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mortgageDr wrote:
Make sure you get a GFE(good faith estimate) from the broker.

I agree with the others that the bait and switch is happening alot.

I would also try to go to the bank for a rate.

Wells Fargo has very competitive pricing right now.

Email me for reference # if you like. My guy can close a deal quickly and

the price and rate they quote will not change at closing time.


"My Guy" ???? Can close quickly?



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chow



Joined: 22 Jan 2005
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Location: Cornfield County, Indiana

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: Tsk, Tsk Reply with quote

Marty 1stMet wrote:
Chow, openly solicitating..... Rolling Eyes

And yes, that's a mispelled word up there too!


Laughing Laughing I don't even have a license to originate an Indiana loan! Laughing Laughing



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Haplo



Joined: 20 Jan 2005
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Location: Springfield, IL

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, we do have pretty competitive rates right now Razz



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Marty 1stMet



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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Location: Williamsburg

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Tsk, Tsk Reply with quote

chow wrote:
Marty 1stMet wrote:
Chow, openly solicitating..... Rolling Eyes

And yes, that's a mispelled word up there too!


Laughing Laughing I don't even have a license to originate an Indiana loan! Laughing Laughing



You don't need one! Indiana is still HUD exempt, until 12-31-07, anyway!

Very Happy I need more Indiana loans!


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m2c



Joined: 03 Aug 2005
Posts: 937

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to the orginal question. Right now the rate is not so hot; a week or so ago, it would have been good.

Rates vary geographically. To give you a bench mark, we'd be a 6.00% with no points and $500 in junk fees.


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jrhartman



Joined: 01 Apr 2007
Posts: 107
Location: Michigan

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will agree with m2c......today's rates should be closer to 6-6.125% with zero points. But you also have to take into account that quoted rates and todays rates really don't mean swat because the rate cannot be locked in until you have a purchase agreement signed because the rates are locked to a property address.

Your main goal right now should be finding someone to work with that you trust, not shopping for rates. If you find someone that you trust you will be put into a competitive rate and have the piece of mind knowing that your loan will be in good hands. I personally would have no problem paying an 1/8th or even a 1/4 higher rate if I know that I am working with someone that is reputable, trustworthy and looking out for my best interest...hell even a 1/4% is only $30 a month or so. A dollar a day is worth if for me to have the ability to sleep well at night. I am a firm believer that there is no need to "go cheap" with your largest financial asset (home), go for the person/company that will take care of you the best.

On a related note, I personally would steer clear of brokers altogether and concentrate on direct lenders.


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Marty 1stMet



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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Location: Williamsburg

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrhartman wrote:


On a related note, I personally would steer clear of brokers altogether and concentrate on direct lenders.


I love how so-called "bankers" feel the need to slip a low blow to brokers on a whim. Jeez, we're all in this business for the same reason. Find something better to do!


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